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04-25-2012, 06:17 AM

SOT Advantages

Lower skills requirement: In my view, paddling sit-inside kayaks requires a fairly significant investment in skills development & skills maintenance for safe paddling. SOTs require less, which may suit the occasional kayaker better.

Self rescue: Simple & reliable. Just slide back on top. Much less reliance on finely honed skills (rolling), additional equipment (paddle floats or external sponsons), or assistance from other group members.

Suitable for cold water paddling: SOTs can be a good choice for cold water paddling because (1) when you go into the drink you are less likely to get your head under water (problem of quick body heat loss, also risk of cold water shock), and (2) you are likely to be out of the water back on your boat quicker than your average sit-insider.

Cockpit is self-draining, no need for pump systems.

Good multi purpose platform: Easy to jump off for a swim on warm days, good for diving or fishing.

Easier to change / adjust worn gear underway & under a greater variety of conditions.

More comfortable to paddle in hot conditions (as if that happens much in Tassie).

More room to wriggle & move for my restless long legs.

Cheaper than equivalent sit-inside kayaks unless you want a performance orientated SOT.

Lighter than equivalent sit-inside kayaks.

Lots of easily accessible storage space if you've got the right hatches installed.

SOT Drawbacks

Requires wearing wind & splash proof outer layer.

Depending on your body, may require wearing additional insulating stuff (thermals under wetsuit are my choice).

All else being equal, SOTs can’t be designed quite as fast as sit-insides. SOTs tend to have slightly greater beam and windage. As usual everything has it’s trade-offs.

If a SOT springs a leak, the whole inside gets flooded. Therefore requires putting in floatation (I use blown up empty wine cask bladders to fill space not taken up by waterproof packed gear).

You may become a bit of a heretic among sea kayakers ;-) . Have a look at http://web.tiscali.it/sitontop/rogue.htm for a hilarious article on that topic.

Πάντα ψηλά μένει η κορφή άν 'ειν και χιονισμένη,
Τόν βράχο δέρνει η θάλασσα μα πάντα βράχος μένει..

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Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-24-2012, 08:30 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by john f - 04-24-2012, 08:52 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by Pai Mei - 04-24-2012, 09:45 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 04-24-2012, 10:21 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by stelios - 04-24-2012, 10:23 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-24-2012, 10:52 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by john f - 04-24-2012, 10:58 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by Pai Mei - 04-24-2012, 12:36 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-24-2012, 04:47 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by Random - 04-24-2012, 07:30 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 04-24-2012, 10:30 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 04-25-2012, 05:46 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-25-2012, 06:02 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 04-25-2012, 06:17 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-25-2012, 06:57 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 04-25-2012, 07:15 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by john f - 04-25-2012, 08:10 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 04-25-2012, 08:42 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-25-2012, 09:32 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by Pai Mei - 04-25-2012, 09:38 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by Random - 04-26-2012, 02:05 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-27-2012, 06:34 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 04-27-2012, 06:35 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 04-27-2012, 07:14 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 04-27-2012, 10:34 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by ghostdog - 04-27-2012, 01:03 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 04-28-2012, 05:45 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 04-29-2012, 05:05 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 05-01-2012, 05:57 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 05-02-2012, 05:43 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 05-02-2012, 05:55 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 05-02-2012, 06:17 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 05-02-2012, 08:57 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 05-02-2012, 06:36 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dimkatso - 05-02-2012, 10:12 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 05-03-2012, 04:15 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 05-03-2012, 12:17 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 05-04-2012, 05:50 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 05-06-2012, 11:10 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dimkatso - 05-08-2012, 06:41 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 05-08-2012, 02:06 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 05-11-2012, 06:54 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 05-12-2012, 03:59 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by davelis - 05-23-2012, 04:28 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by george - 05-28-2012, 06:25 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by tasos - 06-17-2012, 01:02 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by luca - 06-20-2012, 07:21 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 06-21-2012, 05:38 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 06-22-2012, 05:27 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by john f - 06-22-2012, 08:02 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by ermis - 06-22-2012, 11:28 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by yiannis - 06-22-2012, 10:30 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by xyzkl - 06-25-2012, 06:00 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by xyzkl - 06-27-2012, 09:12 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by hakem Chalkidiki - 06-29-2012, 02:47 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by luca - 06-30-2012, 05:57 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by GL - 08-07-2012, 08:47 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 08-08-2012, 05:40 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by GL - 08-08-2012, 06:22 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 08-09-2012, 05:16 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by dan - 08-09-2012, 07:01 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by luca - 08-09-2012, 07:55 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by GL - 08-09-2012, 07:58 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 08-09-2012, 08:41 AM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by luca - 08-09-2012, 10:56 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by hakem Chalkidiki - 08-09-2012, 11:59 AM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 08-09-2012, 01:06 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by GL - 08-09-2012, 03:36 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by giorgos ormanoglou - 08-09-2012, 04:48 PM

Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by GL - 08-09-2012, 06:41 PM

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Απ: Sit on ή Sit in ? - by vitamin sea - 08-09-2012, 07:54 PM

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